Comments on: The Need for New Feminism http://www.ravensrants.com/the-need-for-new-feminism/ Gothic Poetry and More Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:09:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: lakimnf srpvildo http://www.ravensrants.com/the-need-for-new-feminism/#comment-7926 lakimnf srpvildo Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:11:33 +0000 http://ravensrants.com/?p=579#comment-7926 tyhzbifw tiph skcwx xclzqey ogrzsap dcsur hpbmsclo tyhzbifw tiph skcwx xclzqey ogrzsap dcsur hpbmsclo

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]]> By: Niccolo http://www.ravensrants.com/the-need-for-new-feminism/#comment-7928 Niccolo Mon, 16 May 2005 01:44:31 +0000 http://ravensrants.com/?p=579#comment-7928 This is the first time I have ever come to this site, and I saw this article, so I thought I would read it. I don't have much to say, but I'll start by an introduction. I'm a young, middle class, caucasian American, and a Pagan. I believe firmly in equality, fairness, and respect of all living things. I just want to say, that it is nice to see someone writing something like this, especially when I wasn't looking for it. Seeing someone, who obviously has talent, knowledge, and a will to share it, has really made my day. It's nice to see a person with genuine concern for other people. Thank you. This is the first time I have ever come to this site, and I saw this article, so I thought I would read it. I don’t have much to say, but I’ll start by an introduction. I’m a young, middle class, caucasian American, and a Pagan. I believe firmly in equality, fairness, and respect of all living things. I just want to say, that it is nice to see someone writing something like this, especially when I wasn’t looking for it. Seeing someone, who obviously has talent, knowledge, and a will to share it, has really made my day. It’s nice to see a person with genuine concern for other people. Thank you.

]]> By: Sinsade http://www.ravensrants.com/the-need-for-new-feminism/#comment-7929 Sinsade Sat, 12 Jun 2004 21:18:27 +0000 http://ravensrants.com/?p=579#comment-7929 It is too simple to chalk up feminism to the few women who are adopting male attitudes and actions. They feel this is the only way to break into a patriarchal order, and in some instances they are absolutely correct. However, humanity is represented by many manifestations of energy; dark, light, and all shades inbetween. There are many types of feminists out there and they do not all choose to shout their visions from the mountain top. Those women who truly see the need for a balance between the male and female energies here on earth are working in subtle ways.I see these as the feminine energies that will prevail. The repercussions of this subtly working energy are not easily seen, but are there nonetheless. It is too simple to chalk up feminism to the few women who are adopting male attitudes and actions. They feel this is the only way to break into a patriarchal order, and in some instances they are absolutely correct. However, humanity is represented by many manifestations of energy; dark, light, and all shades inbetween. There are many types of feminists out there and they do not all choose to shout their visions from the mountain top. Those women who truly see the need for a balance between the male and female energies here on earth are working in subtle ways.I see these as the feminine energies that will prevail. The repercussions of this subtly working energy are not easily seen, but are there nonetheless.

]]> By: chrissi http://www.ravensrants.com/the-need-for-new-feminism/#comment-7930 chrissi Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:10:46 +0000 http://ravensrants.com/?p=579#comment-7930 Feminism is not only for equality for men and women, but to redefine the whole idea of who women are as well as men. As a man, you may not feel that the job is that hard, but believe me, it's hard to know who you are as a woman. to understand where you belong. and yes, some feminist do push the idea of getting out of the house...my sisters were strippers, and yes, i was the "i think i may be demeaning type", but no i didn't cut them down. What is going on right now is a transformation i believe...a lot of people still don't know what feminism is. A lot of people don't want to label themselves as anything. I think instead of finding things that are negative about this movement, we need to look toward the positive things it is bringing. I am glad that you are, as a man, which is hard to say for me, involved in thinking about feminism. I'm not sure if feminism is really one idea to anyone in this world, as with anything else. PS: on the point of shoving women into men's jobs...or is it that when women do enter the workforce, everything has been designed by a man, and a woman must put on society's idea of the identity of a man to work? Saying that people are being pushed into the wrong careers is like saying that too many people are focusing on the fact that bush needs to be impeached. Feminism is not only for equality for men and women, but to redefine the whole idea of who women are as well as men. As a man, you may not feel that the job is that hard, but believe me, it’s hard to know who you are as a woman. to understand where you belong. and yes, some feminist do push the idea of getting out of the house…my sisters were strippers, and yes, i was the “i think i may be demeaning type”, but no i didn’t cut them down. What is going on right now is a transformation i believe…a lot of people still don’t know what feminism is. A lot of people don’t want to label themselves as anything. I think instead of finding things that are negative about this movement, we need to look toward the positive things it is bringing. I am glad that you are, as a man, which is hard to say for me, involved in thinking about feminism. I’m not sure if feminism is really one idea to anyone in this world, as with anything else.
PS: on the point of shoving women into men’s jobs…or is it that when women do enter the workforce, everything has been designed by a man, and a woman must put on society’s idea of the identity of a man to work?
Saying that people are being pushed into the wrong careers is like saying that too many people are focusing on the fact that bush needs to be impeached.

]]> By: SaviourSelf http://www.ravensrants.com/the-need-for-new-feminism/#comment-7931 SaviourSelf Sun, 07 Mar 2004 22:20:47 +0000 http://ravensrants.com/?p=579#comment-7931 ...i do not remember where i read it (so you can discount this if you'd like), but i seem to recall that it was part of the agenda of the 'communists' (eg: communist manefesto style) that they would undermine america in part through the women and children... *force women (or compel them ) into the work force... *now the workforce has more workers... *this creates an 'employer's market'... *overall payrates go down because job applicants are SO plentiful that employers have more choice (supply and demand)... *hey there are 100 applicants standing in line behind you, why should we pay you more.. *the 'workers to available-jobs ratio' gets diluted. *overall wages goes down because there is NO shortage of people who NEED a job. IF all of the MOMs who'd rather be at home with their beloved just QUIT their jobs... employers would be in NEED of workers... this would create a worker's market... and wages would go up... the need for expensive childcare (don't know that i feel comfortable calling the placement of your children under the guidance of an un-interested 3rd party "childCARE") factors into this equation HEAVILY too. In the long run it appears to dilute a family over all... oh but i forgot - these days family seems to take a DISTANT second to DUTY... You want to call in sick for what?!?! Your child is sick?!? Well we'll have to PENALIZE you for it... …i do not remember where i read it (so you can discount this if you’d like), but i seem to recall that it was part of the agenda of the ‘communists’ (eg: communist manefesto style) that they would undermine america in part through the women and children…

*force women (or compel them ) into the work force…
*now the workforce has more workers…
*this creates an ‘employer’s market’…
*overall payrates go down because job applicants are SO plentiful that employers have more choice (supply and demand)…
*hey there are 100 applicants standing in line behind you, why should we pay you more..
*the ‘workers to available-jobs ratio’ gets diluted.
*overall wages goes down because there is NO shortage of people who NEED a job.

IF all of the MOMs who’d rather be at home with their beloved just QUIT their jobs… employers would be in NEED of workers… this would create a worker’s market… and wages would go up…

the need for expensive childcare (don’t know that i feel comfortable calling the placement of your children under the guidance of an un-interested 3rd party “childCARE”) factors into this equation HEAVILY too.

In the long run it appears to dilute a family over all…

oh but i forgot - these days family seems to take a DISTANT second to DUTY…

You want to call in sick for what?!?! Your child is sick?!? Well we’ll have to PENALIZE you for it…

]]> By: SaviourSelf http://www.ravensrants.com/the-need-for-new-feminism/#comment-7932 SaviourSelf Sun, 07 Mar 2004 22:08:27 +0000 http://ravensrants.com/?p=579#comment-7932 i think 'feminisim' like many other isms has an aganda... not so much the rights of women... ...it seems at time that the ism has zero respect for motherhood. ...i of course will be told i'm wrong. it think it funny that the 'femeninsts' seem to feel that most of nature has the 'family model' wrong - and that their new model is right - or more beneficial. i think ‘feminisim’ like many other isms has an aganda…

not so much the rights of women…

…it seems at time that the ism has zero respect for motherhood.

…i of course will be told i’m wrong.

it think it funny that the ‘femeninsts’ seem to feel that most of nature has the ‘family model’ wrong - and that their new model is right - or more beneficial.

]]> By: Pia http://www.ravensrants.com/the-need-for-new-feminism/#comment-7933 Pia Fri, 27 Feb 2004 22:04:44 +0000 http://ravensrants.com/?p=579#comment-7933 Personally, when I look at the Feminist Movement, its really funny to me. First, in my opinion, the Movement never covered every woman. Many women from different races, socio-ecomonic backgrounds, and up-bringings are either still waiting for their moment or have had to create a movement on their own. Second, and I agree with you on this, Raven, is that it seems the current Feminist Movement wants to impose a stereotype male personality on women and THAT is supposed to make it better?! It appears that rather than help lift oppression, they are an oppression in their own way. Personally, when I look at the Feminist Movement, its really funny to me. First, in my opinion, the Movement never covered every woman. Many women from different races, socio-ecomonic backgrounds, and up-bringings are either still waiting for their moment or have had to create a movement on their own. Second, and I agree with you on this, Raven, is that it seems the current Feminist Movement wants to impose a stereotype male personality on women and THAT is supposed to make it better?! It appears that rather than help lift oppression, they are an oppression in their own way.

]]> By: Ka http://www.ravensrants.com/the-need-for-new-feminism/#comment-7934 Ka Sat, 14 Feb 2004 09:03:32 +0000 http://ravensrants.com/?p=579#comment-7934 Hmm, somehow you've managed to condense the rantings of the many anti-censorship feminists (self included) into one little space. Congrats. It seems like in an effort to reclaim the Sacred Mother and Warrior Woman models, they forgot about the sacred slut, the crone (oh, just remembering that one), the lover (just remembering that one too), the maiden, the witch, and all the _other_ powerful female archetypes. It also seems like "they" (and by they I mean the pro-censorship, sex-negative variety of feminist) want to completely ignore the many male archetypes other than Big Authoritative Beard In The Sky... It seems like some of 'em just decided to mother the world to "make it safe for women"- by taking away women's freedom and range of expression. How sweet. Hmm, somehow you’ve managed to condense the rantings of the many anti-censorship feminists (self included) into one little space. Congrats. It seems like in an effort to reclaim the Sacred Mother and Warrior Woman models, they forgot about the sacred slut, the crone (oh, just remembering that one), the lover (just remembering that one too), the maiden, the witch, and all the _other_ powerful female archetypes. It also seems like “they” (and by they I mean the pro-censorship, sex-negative variety of feminist) want to completely ignore the many male archetypes other than Big Authoritative Beard In The Sky…
It seems like some of ‘em just decided to mother the world to “make it safe for women”- by taking away women’s freedom and range of expression. How sweet.

]]> By: Nevaeh http://www.ravensrants.com/the-need-for-new-feminism/#comment-7935 Nevaeh Fri, 30 Jan 2004 04:06:13 +0000 http://ravensrants.com/?p=579#comment-7935 I have never thought about it like this. I concider myself a femenist but I've never participated in any activity to help feminism. Howver the way you put your views on feminisim makes me wonder if I've been thinking about feminism in the right way. Thank you for opening my mind Raven I have never thought about it like this. I concider myself a femenist but I’ve never participated in any activity to help feminism. Howver the way you put your views on feminisim makes me wonder if I’ve been thinking about feminism in the right way. Thank you for opening my mind Raven

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