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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
		<link>http://www.ravensrants.com/war-is-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-7978</link>
		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 08:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this was really interesting. i find it hard to find people with the same views i have. nice work.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Sandino</title>
		<link>http://www.ravensrants.com/war-is-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-7979</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Sandino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings everyone, regarding &#039;war is hell&#039; yes war is hell among other things the governments of all countries do to their people.
Very well written Raven.

Bush, family &amp; company have crosses the line quite awhile back. Their agendas are very clear yet a great number of the general American public supported the invasion and genocide they called &quot;war&quot;. They have divided the people of America, and will continue the destruction here and abroad.
Our soldiers, and innocent children, women, and men from Iraq and Afghanistan are getting killed over power trips the corporate rich have created in the name of so-called &quot;freedom&quot;, &quot;democracy&quot; and now Bush claimed at his inaugeration that his doctrine is to: &quot;Spread Liberty throughout the world&quot;. Liberty...........................
Bombing, and destroying countries is not liberty.
This guy is an unfunny clown in a three ring circus trying to play ring-master. Un-educated fool.

Shocking to know that he had his forty million plus inaugeration for the second time while the families of dead U.S. soldiers are grieving for their loved ones as well as the Iraqi people grieve for their own.

I kept a newspaper clipping/photograph that shows Bush and his wife dancing together with a huge smile. At the bottom of the photo it reads:
Smiles All Around
NIGHTTIME SWIRL: President Bush, with wife, Laura, dance at the Texas-Wyoming Ball at the Washington Convention Center. &quot;We&#039;re having the time of our life&quot;, the president told revelers during the inaugerational night festivities......................................Great going, having the time of their lives?
while our soldiers and Iraqi citizens perish hour after hour for his, his family and his corporate monsters? Wake up America!
I am a Vietnam Veteran who experienced the worse in southeast Asia as my Vietnam war Veteran brothers and sisters did. We faught for not freedom, but to benefit the currupt who want global power, insatiable psycho&#039;s with no regard for humanity.
This Bush family &amp; company are as evil as they come.

Mark Sandino
Vietnam Veteran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings everyone, regarding &#039;war is hell&#039; yes war is hell among other things the governments of all countries do to their people.<br />
Very well written Raven.</p>
<p>Bush, family &#038; company have crosses the line quite awhile back. Their agendas are very clear yet a great number of the general American public supported the invasion and genocide they called &#034;war&#034;. They have divided the people of America, and will continue the destruction here and abroad.<br />
Our soldiers, and innocent children, women, and men from Iraq and Afghanistan are getting killed over power trips the corporate rich have created in the name of so-called &#034;freedom&#034;, &#034;democracy&#034; and now Bush claimed at his inaugeration that his doctrine is to: &#034;Spread Liberty throughout the world&#034;. Liberty&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Bombing, and destroying countries is not liberty.<br />
This guy is an unfunny clown in a three ring circus trying to play ring-master. Un-educated fool.</p>
<p>Shocking to know that he had his forty million plus inaugeration for the second time while the families of dead U.S. soldiers are grieving for their loved ones as well as the Iraqi people grieve for their own.</p>
<p>I kept a newspaper clipping/photograph that shows Bush and his wife dancing together with a huge smile. At the bottom of the photo it reads:<br />
Smiles All Around<br />
NIGHTTIME SWIRL: President Bush, with wife, Laura, dance at the Texas-Wyoming Ball at the Washington Convention Center. &#034;We&#039;re having the time of our life&#034;, the president told revelers during the inaugerational night festivities&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..Great going, having the time of their lives?<br />
while our soldiers and Iraqi citizens perish hour after hour for his, his family and his corporate monsters? Wake up America!<br />
I am a Vietnam Veteran who experienced the worse in southeast Asia as my Vietnam war Veteran brothers and sisters did. We faught for not freedom, but to benefit the currupt who want global power, insatiable psycho&#039;s with no regard for humanity.<br />
This Bush family &#038; company are as evil as they come.</p>
<p>Mark Sandino<br />
Vietnam Veteran</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Ravana</title>
		<link>http://www.ravensrants.com/war-is-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-7980</link>
		<dc:creator>Lady Ravana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 19:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll admit, there is no glory to be had in war, no matter what the commercials tell you. They made the war seem noble and just, when it was neither in truth. It&#039;s all so very meaningless. All this war has brought is unspeakable suffering and grief on both sides. It is truly sickening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll admit, there is no glory to be had in war, no matter what the commercials tell you. They made the war seem noble and just, when it was neither in truth. It&#039;s all so very meaningless. All this war has brought is unspeakable suffering and grief on both sides. It is truly sickening.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivy</title>
		<link>http://www.ravensrants.com/war-is-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-7981</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 05:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If experience is our best teacher and history always repeats itself, how valuble is experience? Seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If experience is our best teacher and history always repeats itself, how valuble is experience? Seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Lycosidae</title>
		<link>http://www.ravensrants.com/war-is-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-7982</link>
		<dc:creator>Lycosidae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our country and its leaders always seem so hellbent on &quot;liberating&quot; and &quot;saving&quot; other countries from their horrible dictators and other such type leaders. Haven&#039;t we tried this time and time again? Don&#039;t we see how it DOESN&#039;T WORK? I hate the fact that Americans always fail to notice that everytime we attempt such a stunt, bad things happen to our country and the countries we are &quot;helping.&quot; It never turns out the way that we plan, but no one seems to care. History repeats itself, but that idea obviously hasn&#039;t gone through Bush&#039;s head yet. America is not a knight in shining armor, Iraq is not a fairy tale princess being trapped in her tower by the evil dragon, Saddam. The people who are against the war tend to be the ones causing it. The ones who want the American armed forces to fly over there and drop food and supplies to the Iraqi people are the exact same people that are wanting to send the armed forces there in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our country and its leaders always seem so hellbent on &#034;liberating&#034; and &#034;saving&#034; other countries from their horrible dictators and other such type leaders. Haven&#039;t we tried this time and time again? Don&#039;t we see how it DOESN&#039;T WORK? I hate the fact that Americans always fail to notice that everytime we attempt such a stunt, bad things happen to our country and the countries we are &#034;helping.&#034; It never turns out the way that we plan, but no one seems to care. History repeats itself, but that idea obviously hasn&#039;t gone through Bush&#039;s head yet. America is not a knight in shining armor, Iraq is not a fairy tale princess being trapped in her tower by the evil dragon, Saddam. The people who are against the war tend to be the ones causing it. The ones who want the American armed forces to fly over there and drop food and supplies to the Iraqi people are the exact same people that are wanting to send the armed forces there in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinsade</title>
		<link>http://www.ravensrants.com/war-is-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-7983</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinsade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prehistorically, war arose to retain or aquire resources. During the period of hunter-gathering bands there was little need for war. The people did not own land and did not cultivate it. When people began to put their labor into the land they also became possesive of it. Defensive war is understandable when you consider the blood, sweat, and tears poured into the cultivation of the land. Fast-forward from hunting-gathering times into the times of colonial expansion. Europeans stole a vast amount of land and resources from the middle eastern peoples. The opressed becomes the opressor. Terrorism springs from colonial expansion;it is a necessary repercussion.
Raven is totally correct in saying that we are only making terrorism worse. The western cultural mindset is so completely different from the middle eastern mindset. We are naieve to believe that our values will be accepted by these peoples. We are arrogant to believe our ways are better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prehistorically, war arose to retain or aquire resources. During the period of hunter-gathering bands there was little need for war. The people did not own land and did not cultivate it. When people began to put their labor into the land they also became possesive of it. Defensive war is understandable when you consider the blood, sweat, and tears poured into the cultivation of the land. Fast-forward from hunting-gathering times into the times of colonial expansion. Europeans stole a vast amount of land and resources from the middle eastern peoples. The opressed becomes the opressor. Terrorism springs from colonial expansion;it is a necessary repercussion.<br />
Raven is totally correct in saying that we are only making terrorism worse. The western cultural mindset is so completely different from the middle eastern mindset. We are naieve to believe that our values will be accepted by these peoples. We are arrogant to believe our ways are better.</p>
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		<title>By: Mags</title>
		<link>http://www.ravensrants.com/war-is-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-7984</link>
		<dc:creator>Mags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2004 02:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been shocked and disgusted by this war since the very beginning.  Yes, the pictures of the prisoners being abused shocked me, but not any more than everything that has come before.  Just naive, I guess.  Sucks to be me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve been shocked and disgusted by this war since the very beginning.  Yes, the pictures of the prisoners being abused shocked me, but not any more than everything that has come before.  Just naive, I guess.  Sucks to be me.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.ravensrants.com/war-is-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-7985</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2004 11:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before I say anything... war can be justified but I don&#039;t believe it can ever be &quot;good&quot; so I have to disagree with you there Raven. Sorry.

Anyway, I was for this war being born and raised in New York City. If a day like that can happen due to terrorists I believe they should be eliminated. My view has caused many more *wars* in my life between myself and people I&#039;ve been close to. So I also believe that war... in all of its forms... is inevitable as long as we remain the human beings we are. However, I don&#039;t agree with what this war has evolved into. Thinking more about it and with what Raven wrote it seems very much that all we have done is create more reason for terrorists to attack again and many of them already reside in the states. I don&#039;t know where we go from here or what to do but I have a hope of my own that whoever is leading our country in the future has a head on their shoulders and not some sort of a war hungry power trip if what Bush is doing can be called that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before I say anything&#8230; war can be justified but I don&#039;t believe it can ever be &#034;good&#034; so I have to disagree with you there Raven. Sorry.</p>
<p>Anyway, I was for this war being born and raised in New York City. If a day like that can happen due to terrorists I believe they should be eliminated. My view has caused many more *wars* in my life between myself and people I&#039;ve been close to. So I also believe that war&#8230; in all of its forms&#8230; is inevitable as long as we remain the human beings we are. However, I don&#039;t agree with what this war has evolved into. Thinking more about it and with what Raven wrote it seems very much that all we have done is create more reason for terrorists to attack again and many of them already reside in the states. I don&#039;t know where we go from here or what to do but I have a hope of my own that whoever is leading our country in the future has a head on their shoulders and not some sort of a war hungry power trip if what Bush is doing can be called that.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2004 07:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I read one part where Raven spoke ill of our troops in general. I think that Raven spoke ill of the war and of some&#039;s poor actions. It is a horrid war, and just because Arabs were meaner in that sawing thing, doesn&#039;t mean that we should be excused. Also, because not everyone listens to all the information doesn&#039;t mean that if you do ... you will get the entire story. I think that Raven came off very level headed, a few people have become very outraged about things that they themselves are lost about. I don&#039;t think anyone will know the entire story for years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think I read one part where Raven spoke ill of our troops in general. I think that Raven spoke ill of the war and of some&#039;s poor actions. It is a horrid war, and just because Arabs were meaner in that sawing thing, doesn&#039;t mean that we should be excused. Also, because not everyone listens to all the information doesn&#039;t mean that if you do &#8230; you will get the entire story. I think that Raven came off very level headed, a few people have become very outraged about things that they themselves are lost about. I don&#039;t think anyone will know the entire story for years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2004 21:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, first of all how much of this story do you actually know?  All the people that complain about these pictures only hear the 60 seconds of bad news that CNN talks about.  Did you know that that was just one unit, in one of the many other prisions.  All of the military is not bad... that was one bad spot in something good the troops are doing.  ABUSE?  I&#039;d hardly say that that was abuse.  if i were in jail id much rather have my genitals laughed at then have my head SAWED off of my body by my Iraqi captives, like Nick Berg... so yea, talk ill about our troops, they&#039;re only fighting to save your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, first of all how much of this story do you actually know?  All the people that complain about these pictures only hear the 60 seconds of bad news that CNN talks about.  Did you know that that was just one unit, in one of the many other prisions.  All of the military is not bad&#8230; that was one bad spot in something good the troops are doing.  ABUSE?  I&#039;d hardly say that that was abuse.  if i were in jail id much rather have my genitals laughed at then have my head SAWED off of my body by my Iraqi captives, like Nick Berg&#8230; so yea, talk ill about our troops, they&#039;re only fighting to save your life.</p>
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